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The Hidden Dividing Line, Not What You Think

by Flyovercountry ( 167 Comments › )
Filed under Anarcho-Capitalism, Christianity, Conservatism, Libertarianism, Progressives, Religion, Republican Party, Tea Parties, The Political Right at November 7th, 2013 - 7:00 am

Cartoon: Intelligent Design caveman clobbers modern Evolution man

I have promised myself that November would be a month of positivism, with every post dealing with the subject of how we put conservatism back into the driver’s seat in this country. Today’s essay is meant to be considered in that vein, and please take it as such.

Today’s essay is a difficult journey for me, partly because I know, even before I start, that I’ll manage to anger pretty much everybody at some point. There are three distinct groups who will be mad at me, and to that I say, nuts to you, I have a right to my opinion, and I’m stating it anyhow. To those of you on the liberal side, group number one, not everyone right of center is a member of the religious right. Your complete refusal to even consider seriously any of the arguments made, about anything in the known Universe that does not comport with your world view has blinded you so totally, that you have labeled any who do not agree as a cartoon figure, fit for nothing more than sophomoric lampooning. What’s even worse than that however, is the absolute position of unbridled ignorance of the subject matter at hand, which combined with the arrogance of your belief system, makes you guilty of the most egregious sins with which you smear those of us who are right of center.

To those of you who view conservatism totally through the prism of religious qualification, considering yourselves to be the only true conservatives, group number two is your moniker for the purposes of this essay, I appreciate your adherence to your faith, and believe wholeheartedly in your right to exercise it freely in our nation. What I will never accept however is your intenton to inflict that faith upon the territory reserved for scientific discovery, which is taught to my children and grandchildren as a part of their educative process. There is a place for teaching religious dogma, and it is not in a science class room. I am not saying that religion not be taught as an elective class in school, nor am I suggesting that my views be inflicted upon your children. I believe that control of our schools should be taken away from the federal behemoth, and that local boards should be given complete autonomy to teach what ever the parents of each individual school district want taught. To further that concept just a little more, I wish to see the Friedman solution enacted, where each child receives his or her parent’s tax donations in the form of a voucher to be used at the school of their choice, where the entire curricula is designed according the dictates of the free market. With that being said however, your insistence on attempting to label creationism as a, “scientific theory,” entitled euphamistically, “Intelligent Design,” is moronic at best, and criminally perjurious at worst. it is nothing more than a ruse, designed to fake the rest of us out by convincing us that your religious dogma is suddenly a seriously considered scientific theory, and quite frankly the effort at this trickery is no more reasoned nor tough to spot than the old, “got your nose trick,” which usually won’t fool anyone past the age of 18 months.

To those of you who make up the smaller government, free marketeers, hawkish, or the opposite of hawkish libertarian wing of our diverse group, trying to shun the religious right and not attempting to find some way to allow them to have their say while considering their position thoroughly makes us guilty of exactly the same intolerance with which we paint them. Our standards for ourselves should be higher than that, and I say this partly because this is the group that I call home. Exactly how have we allowed ourselves to get to that place in our nation where religious freedom came to be defined as no religious people allowed, excepting of course for Muslims, who are suddenly free to get their religious dogma included in schools all over the nation? What is perhaps most disturbing about our refusal to allow the religious right their say is that it demonstrates a lack of our own, in terms of our commitment to the Constitution. When allowed to work properly, that document has served our nation well. While it is true that lately, the, “living document,” crowd has gained success in instituting changes in the interpretation, those successes are temporary so long as permanent changes are kept at bay. There is not one single School District in the country that has failed to replace entirely, any school board that has introduced creationism into the science curricula at the earliest possible moment. That ladies and gentlemen is the perfect example of how our system is supposed to work, and has. More importantly, it has worked irrespective of, and faster than any federal mandate. If there are a group of people who wish to educate their children in such a manner, they should have the same opportunity to find a school that caters to such, and should not be forced to subsidize a public school system while they send their child to a private school.

To add the exclamation to the, you-are-not-holier-than-thou point, I would just like to add that the creationists and the global warming scare mongers are opposite sides of the very same anti-science faith based coin. While you two disparate groups are aligned on opposite sides of the political aisle, and revel in pointing at the other side wagging your fingers while chiding them for their practice of substituting evidence free faith for actual knowledge based on empirical evidence, realize that you are in fact the very same animal. There is no real difference between you. I will tell you up front that while faith is a wonderful thing, and it imparts to its adherents many wonderful gifts in return for the discipline, it is not science. I believe in God. I just do not believe in a purposefully deceptive God.

With those disclosures out of the way, I want you all to recognize this one fact. Creationism being taught in public schools as science is the single biggest issue which drives people away from the conservative movement to find an uncomfortable solace in the party on the left. It does not matter to those who fear it that not one group who has sought such has ever enjoyed a lasting success, the mere mention of it for many of our citizens trumps all other political considerations, and that is a powerfully dangerous concept to ponder.

I can not tell you how many times I have been involved in a debate with one of my leftist friends when the topic centered on economics. In more instances than I can count, I received tacit agreement on the concept of free market economics. Agreement was reached on the clarity of history’s lens showing that the leftist policies being enacted today more often than not cause the very problems that the political left claims to care so much about. I’ve also solicited many admissions to the provable fact that limiting centralized authority has done a far superior job in curing those perceived ills than any other form of governance or economics ever put into practice by any society at at time in world history. In peeling back the onion to find the real reason for the schism, one subject tends to stand out, with one group receiving the blame. The religious right is blamed, and abortion is not the issue mentioned. Teaching Creationism as science in our schools is the only real deal breaker, not for everybody but for a lot of folks.

Consider the implications of that momentarily. For many of our fellow citizens, having thier children get an actual decent education in terms of what is taught as science and math is worth the price of economic suicide and the abridgment of our constitutional freedoms. There is something in that which we can actually use to bolster our position. There is opportunity here, and it is much greater than any being touted by the political consultant class.

The quality of education in our nation has been deteriorating steadily since the infliction of the Department of Education. The public school districts which spend the greatest amount of money per student are coincidentally the worst performing districts in the nation. Common Core is an educational disaster waiting to happen, if it hasn’t already. Math, Science, English, and History are being deemphasized for other subjects such as conflict resolution, diversity studies, Socialist Dogma, which is being touted as citizenship. The crowd who is willing to eschew their actual beliefs in free enterprise in favor of a decent education for their children might in fact be interested in insuring that those kids get that quality education. Despite the efforts and success at painting our side to be anti-science cartoons, attentive parents are still able to notice that their children are coming home from school every day with little more ability to do basic math than when they left each morning.

The fact is that creationism provides an avenue to paint the caricature, and in many instances, it is the only thing that prevents actual consideration of the other side’s track record in terms of educative failure. One of the things that we on the right must come to grips with and accept is that life is not fair. Our preferred system of economics and governance will always be compared with Utopia, and the other side will not. At the same time, we must become smart enough to turn that same microscope around to shine light upon the alternatives offered. Rather than getting into arguments where we exemplify the caricatures painted, we need to find a way to communicate the positive aspects of what we are trying to accomplish.

Here is a talk presented by Dr. Kenneth Miller, a devout Christian, who is also a cellular biologist. If you have the two hours to spare, you might be interested in hearing his perspective on how his religious beliefs and his expertise on evolutionary science are not mutually exclusive. He is the author of the Best Selling Book, “Finding Darwin’s God.”

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

The Sage of Culver City will not be pleased with Chris Christie’s answer on evolution

by Daedalus ( 180 Comments › )
Filed under Blogmocracy, Blogwars, Humor, LGF, Liberal Fascism, Open thread, Progressives, Republican Party at May 13th, 2011 - 2:00 pm

The Governor of New Jersey Chris Christie has broken Chuck’s golden rule. When he was asked by a reporter whether he believes in Evolution, Christie said it’s none of any one’s business. His refusal to answer this question will make him a mark for Emperor Hero Cheetos. Evolution is a litmus test for Chuck. Christie has failed this test and will soon be subject to smears from The Sage of Culver City.

JERSEY CITY — Gov. Chris Christie refused to comment when asked if he believes in evolution or the theory of creationism when asked at a press conference earlier today.

“That’s none of your business,” Christie said.

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“Evolution is required teaching,” Christie said. “If there’s a certain school district that also wants to teach creationism, that’s not something we should decide in Trenton.”

The fact he’s not anti-creationism alone will drive Charles Johnson mad. Chuck demands a purity test on this issue and does not look kindly on people who don’t pass it. I would love Christ Christie say to the Sage of Culver City’s face  that it’s none of his business. This is a nonsensical issue and one that only the Jazz Man is obsessed with.

Emperor Hero Cheetos will soon paint Chris Christie as part of the Ron Paul Global Nazi plot. Christie is Catholic so Chuck will claim he’s Ron Paul’s Catholic connection. He will weave the governor into his conspiracy theory. After all Charles is a dishonest smear merchant. He denied every calling Progressive icon Rachael Corrie, St. Pancakes. Thanks to Chen Zhen and the Boiler Room Crew, this lie was unmasked.

Give it up Chuck, your done.

(Hat Tip: Speranza)

Update: This commercial for Dan Adler running implies Jews are a non White minority. It’s message is that all minorities should stick together.

Whatever happen to the Individual. The Sage of Culver City probably approves of this ad!

High school teacher’s anti-Creationism comment violated law

by bar ( 38 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Hate Speech at May 3rd, 2009 - 11:59 am

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SANTA ANA – A Mission Viejo high school history teacher violated the First Amendment by disparaging Christians during a classroom lecture, a federal judge ruled today.

James Corbett, a 20-year teacher at Capistrano Valley High School, referred to Creationism as “religious, superstitious nonsense” during a 2007 classroom lecture, denigrating his former Advanced Placement European history student, Chad Farnan.

The decision is the culmination of a 16-month legal battle between Corbett and Farnan – a conflict the judge said should remind teachers of their legal “boundaries” as public school employees.

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In a December 2007 lawsuit, Farnan, then a sophomore, accused Corbett of repeatedly promoting hostility toward Christians in class and advocating “irreligion over religion” in violation of the First Amendment’s establishment clause.

The establishment clause prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion” and has been interpreted by U.S. courts to also prohibit government employees from displaying religious hostility.

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Farnan’s lawsuit had cited more than 20 inflammatory statements attributed to Corbett, including “Conservatives don’t want women to avoid pregnancies – that’s interfering with God’s work” and “When you pray for divine intervention, you’re hoping that the spaghetti monster will help you get what you want.”

The Rest…

How very LGF 1.0ish of this teacher. Charles and the minions would be proud. Its acceptable in America to disparage Christians and only Christians. Other religions are off the table, its not ok to disparage American Indians and what they practice nor Buddhist, Atheists, Islam or anyone else.

Its amazing how liberal America takes pride in its bigotry and acts as if they are tolerant non-bigots. Its typical liberalism to disparage and hate everything an anything that is seen as American while showing great respect for anything that is not American.

But it’s the conservatives that are the “real haters”, at least that’s what the liberals proclaim.
This sounds amazingly like the hypocrite Charles Darwin Johnson, he calls everyone else a hater, while he is doing all the hating.

Strange Bedfellows: Communism & Evolution

by WrathofG-d ( 37 Comments › )
Filed under Evolution, LGF at February 4th, 2009 - 3:20 pm

While defending their position in the ongoing evolution and creation debate, those advocating the theory of evolution often falsely compare those who believe in the theory of creation to Islamists.  They base their argument on the fact that Islamists and those who advocate the theory of creation share the belief that G-d created the heavens and Earth, and dispute the theory of evolution.

I wonder then how these evolution theory-only types would respond to the fact that the theory of evolution is a core tenant of the Communist Party U.S.A.

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From “Revolution” Magazine – “Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party U.S.A.”:

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Part 1: Introducing The “Science of Evolution” Series.  “We all need to know at least the basic scientific facts about evolution and understand also how the religious fundamentalists who want to keep people ignorant and confused about evolution are driven by a reactionary social and political agenda…. This series will also discuss why evolution is under relentless assault by Christian fundamentalists and refute the antiscientific claims of “creationism” and “intelligent design” about the origin and development of life on the planet.” (Quote From Revolutionary Worker, May 12, 2002) (Revolutionary Worker #1157, June 30, 2002)

Part 7(e): Creationism’s New Wrapper Won’t Fool Us: Intelligent Design Theory Is Still Just Religion –It Is Not Science –And Its Still Wrong.  (Revolutionary Worker #1220, November 23, 2003)

Part 7(b)Snake Oil Salesmen and Charlatans At Court. (Revolutionary Worker #1216, October 19, 2003) “In the modern world, many Christian and other religious authorities and believers are willing to adapt their religious beliefs to encompass modern scientific understanding.  But traditional Creationists will have none of that, particularly (although not only) when it comes to the scientific fact of evolution: to them the Bible is the Word of God and everything in it must therefore be literally true, so there is no possible way evolution could be true. Still, in today’s world they realize that many people are not satisfied by blind faith any more and want some scientific evidence for things. So many of these traditional Creationists have tried to wrap their non-scientific–and even anti -scientific–views in what they like to call “Creation-science.” They have even created so-called “research institutes” and creation-science “museums” (the San Diego-based Institute for Creation Research and its associated Museum being probably the most well-known) and they publish numerous books, pamphlets, web sites, etc., etc. But do they do any legitimate scientific research that gets published in any serious scientific journals under the supervision and critical review of the established scientific communities? NO.”

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The above publication is only one example of the collusion between the Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S.A., and those who argue for the theory of evolution.  There are many, many more

Following are a few statements from the Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S.A. that might sound familiar to some of you:

Intelligent Design: Stealth War on ScienceRevolution #201, November 6, 2005, posted at revcom.us.”  It then goes on to quote and discuss “Wedge Theory”.

Defend Science, Darwin, and The BiologistsRevolution #155, February 8, 2009. [Discussing an Evolution Conference in January 2009]  “We learned a great deal: About important new organizations and efforts to popularize science; about the fierce struggle biologists are waging against creationist attacks on evolution, and in some cases just to teach evolution; and about what scientists and others can do to fight for science now—especially around Darwin Day and Darwin Year.”  It then goes on to discuss the Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S.A.’s push beginning in 2009 to fight against “creationists”.

Misrepresenting Working Scientists – A Favorite Creationist TacticRevolutionary Worker #1216, October 19, 2003.Creationists in general are famous for their shoddy and unprincipled methods. So-called “scientific Creationists” and the “Intelligent Design” Creationists can produce no actual scientific evidence for their theories. They have in fact never published a single scientific research paper in any peer-reviewed scientific journal (which publish articles only after they have been critically reviewed and assessed by multiple working scientists with established credentials and experience in relevant scientific arenas). Since Creationists can provide no scientific evidence whatsoever for their own theories, they focus instead on trying to tear down the opposition (the evolutionists) any way they can: they try to confuse people who don’t know much about science into thinking that the theory of evolution is wrong, that the evidence for evolution is not solid or that evolution is a “theory in crisis” as proven by the fact that evolutionists argue among themselves.”

Kansas School Board Enshrines Anti-Science”   Posted on revcom.us, November 12, 2005. “The Kansas State School Board announced their decision that in Kansas public schools the new state standards for the teaching of science call for attacking evolution in science classrooms in the state... The new science standards were forced by a faction on the school board that champions intelligent design, the latest form of creationism. The intelligent design movement is driven by Christian fundamentalists at its core – the attacks on science in Kansas are one part of the whole Christian fascist agenda which aims to make sweeping reactionary changes in every sphere of life in this country. “

An Urgent Call To Defend ScienceRevolution #78, February 11, 2007. “The signs of this are everywhere. The attacks are coming at an accelerating pace, and include frequent interventions by powerful forces, in and out of the Bush Administration, who seem all too willing to deny scientific truths, disrupt scientific investigations, block scientific progress, undermine scientific education, and sacrifice the very integrity of the scientific process itself–all in the pursuit of implementing their particular political agenda.”

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Just to be clear, my intent is not to infer that those that advocate the theory of evolution are all communists (even if they so happen to walk, talk, and sound like just a Marx reading duck), but instead to show those who make the “Creationism” = Islamism argument how intellectually stunted they really are.