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Progressives, Eugenics, Holdren and LGF

by Phantom Ace ( 45 Comments › )
Filed under Healthcare, LGF, Liberal Fascism, Science at July 16th, 2009 - 5:45 pm

John Holdren who is now a Science Czar co wrote a book calling for Eugenics. The idea that the Earth’s population must be controlled through forced sterilization is an old one. It dates to the Late 19th Early 20th Century Progressive movement. The Progressive movement which today is back with full force, spawned the ideologies of Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism. In politics right now, the Progressives are the most powerful and best organized force.

As you will see below the Progressives have been the driving force behind Eugenics.

What is less well known is that eugenic thought deeply influenced the Progressive Era transformation of the state’s relationship to the American economy. Progressive Era economics, like the regulatory state it helped found, came of age at a time when biological approaches to social and economic reform were at their high-water mark. Reform-minded economists (and other social scientists) argued that the labor force should be rid of unfit workers–whom they labeled “unemployables,” “parasites,” and the “industrial residuum”–so as to uplift superior, deserving workers. Immigrants, blacks, and those deemed defective in character or intellect were regarded by leading labor legislation activists less as victims of industrial capitalism than as threats to the health and well-being of deserving workers and of society more generally. Mostly neglected by historians of American economics, these invidious distinctions crucially informed the labor and immigration reform that is the hallmark of the Progressive Era (Leonard 2003a). (2)

This crude, eugenically informed sorting of workers into deserving and undeserving classes was applied to women as well. Many reformers classified women among the “unemployable.” In the United States, where nearly all Progressive Era labor legislation applied to women exclusively, laws regulating women’s work were promoted for the benefits thought to obtain when women were removed from paid employment. Leading progressives, among them women at the forefront of labor reform, advocated excluding women from the labor force on the grounds that (1) work outside the home threatened women’s health and morals; (2) working women usurped jobs that rightly belonged to male heads of household entitled to a “family wage”; and (3) women in the labor force improperly abandoned their eugenic duties as “mothers of the race.” (3)

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Mothers of the Race where did we hear that term? Nazi Germany, that is where.

As you see Holdren’s views are part of the Progressive movement. Here is another comment from the above article.

By 1933, American demographer and eugenicist Paul Popenoe could boast that eugenic sterilization laws obtained in jurisdictions comprising 150 million people (Kevles 1995: 115). (9)

Could this be the reason that The Progressive Machine wants Health-care reform? With control of the Health-care system, medical care will be rationed by the government. This will allow the government to determine who gets care and who doesn’t. What will be the determination of who gets care? Could this be the means by which Progressives decide who lives and a dies? Who will be the undesirables?

Another overlooked aspect of Eugenics is the support it has among Darwinists. An example of this is Former Jazz Guitarist Charles “Icarus” Johnson owner of the Progressive blog LGF. Charles is a hardcore Darwinist and has banned anyone on his blog who questions this ideology. As the below Article shows, Darwinism influenced Eugenics thinking.

Galton introduced his own controversial idea—the theory of eugenics—in 1883.  At the time, Galton was probably thinking simply in terms of science, using his theory to describe selective breeding in humans as a means to improve the fitness of the human race.  However, when his theory was united with Spencer’s socially inclined concept of survival, the result was social Darwinism, a gripping theory about competition for survival among human races and social classes.

During Galton’s era—the Victorian Age in Britain—eugenics and social Darwinism seemed reasonable.  The notion that filth and disease were associated with immorality was widespread.  Furthermore, those who viewed themselves as superior, usually members of the upper classes of society, found that they could rely upon the theories put forth by Galton and Spencer to justify their discrimination against the lower classes.

Read the article.

This would explain Charles “Icarus” Johnson defending John Holdren’s Book on Sterilization on Scientific grounds.

As disturbing as the ideas in Ecoscience may seem, thinking through extreme situations and visualizing consequences and possible solutions is part of what science is about.

Interesting, Eugenics is OK since it is a radical Scientific solution to an extreme situation of over population. This analysis is disturbing and exposes Charles’s Darwinist ideology as Totalitarian and genocidal.

This puts Charles Johnson on the same side as Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. Nice company you have, Icarus.


Melanie Phillips answers Charles Johnson over his attacks on her

by Phantom Ace ( 84 Comments › )
Filed under Blogwars, LGF, Liberal Fascism at May 4th, 2009 - 5:03 pm

Melanie Phillips answer back Charles from LGF. She wonders why he is so obsessed with people’s views on the origin of man. She is just another victim of his recent attacks on former allies.

The secular inquisition

The response to my post below on Intelligent Design has provided illuminating and revealing evidence of the ignorance, confusion, distortions, irrationality and malice that characterise this debate. For those who appear to assume I am part of some cosmic Christian conspiracy to destroy science and deny the laws of nature, let me first of all gently enlighten you: I am an agnostic if traditionally-minded Jew; not a scientist, not a philosopher, not a subscriber to any kind of -ology but a mere journalist who has always gone wherever the evidence has led and, trying not to make too many mistakes, has formed her conclusions and her opinions from that process.

I hold no particular brief for ID, but am intrigued by the ideas it raises and want it to be given a fair crack of the whip to see where the argument will lead. What I have also seen, however, is an attempt to shut down that argument by distorting and misrepresenting ID and defaming and intimidating its proponents.

One way of doing so is to conflate ID with Creationism. I wrote below that this is wrong, since ID comes out of science and creationism comes out of Biblical literalism. This provoked Charles Johnson on LGF to accuse me of being either duped or dishonest. Johnson – who has become unhealthily obsessed with ID and Creationism in recent months — says I am wrong to say that ID is based on science rather than on religion, and wrong to say that it is different from Creationism.

Charles Johnson is an Intellectual midget compared to Melanie. She actually debates and defends her views. Charles keep it up, your enemies list is growing. You are not someone to be trusted and a backstabber. If you disagree with Melanie, challenge her to a debate? Or Charles are you really nothing more than an Intellectual Coward? I think we all know the answer. This is another case of how his Radical Darwinist ideology has consumed his thinking.

Question who will Charles turn on next? Is there anyone left to turn on?

Update: Charles now plays the victime role.

138 Charles 5/04/09 3:30:25 pm reply quote

Melanie Phillips says I’m “unhealthily obsessed with ID and creationism,” then proceeds to write more than 2,000 words explaining … well, nothing, really. She’s deeply confused about the meaning of “science,” and equates the acceptance of evolution with “intellectual fascism.”

[Link: www.spectator.co.uk…]

Looks like I hit a nerve.

(And of course, the stalkers are already showing up in the comments.)

If you criticize Charles, he calls you a stalker! Well Chucky, maybe you shouldn’t have made many enemies by backstabbing people.


LGF 1.0 anti-Christian public school indoctrination

by bar ( 87 Comments › )
Filed under Evolution, LGF at March 24th, 2009 - 12:46 am

Comments From LGF 1.0 California Creation Museum thread.
Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:01:27 pm PDT

# 929 AndyMacOP  3/23/09 1:17:42 pm +3
Possible dead thread, but I have to say that I showed this photo in Theology class today and told the kids (11th grade) that anyone who believes in crap like this is just plain stupid. This is not the faith!

I might get a call or two as I know of at least one parent who thinks that the devil planted the fossils there to confuse humans.

As Charles would say : Oh brother!

Wow, a public school teacher, teaching of all things a “Theology class” not a natural science class, indoctrinates his students with his own bigoted opinion and brags about it. How is that teaching? Why would a teacher want to impress LGF & Charles Darwin Rage Boy Johnson at the expense of his students education? How is “creationism” not theology?

You and I are paying this persons salary and yet he feels justified in browbeating kids into submission with bombastic arguments from “authority”. Nice logical fallacy Mr indoctrination, of course the kids don’t know that, so the “teacher” takes advantage.

Caring “teacher” or a teacher who only cares about himself and his pretentious opinion?

Perhaps some more schooling or less bigotry would help him to stop suffering from Cranial Rectal Inversion. I say this pompous ass “teacher” is the reason our education system is in such shambles.

# 28 Charles  3/22/09 7:11:21 pm +7
re: #12 Sharmuta
Aren’t some of those creationist kids books ones you found and linked to before, Charles?
Yes. They’re the “Answers in Genesis” textbooks, used to brainwash children.

# 32 Ringo the Gringo  3/22/09 7:13:21 pm +11
Thanks Charles!

Well at least the kids are not being brainwashed in theology class with the evils of creationism, they would be called stupid by the pompous ass “teacher” if they dare disagree.

LGF 1.0 must be proud, of course they decry ideas being forced down their throat but are more than happy and willing to force their ideas down yours. They advocate the removal of free speech when they don’t agree. LGF 1.0 and the kind of people it attracts are a far greater threat to our freedoms then any Islamic terrorists at this present time.

Pompous ass non-teachers like this need to be fired and run out of town, only then will public education improve.

( Update @ 3/24/09 11:48, the man in question “AndyMacOP” H/T Truthteller)

( Correction Update @ 12:03pm, from Anastasia: AndyMacOP is a Dominican brother—that’s what the OP means (Order of Preachers)— and he is almost certainly talking about a private Catholic school, NOT a PUBLIC school. )

(Update 3/24/09 @ 9:21 pm PST. Please See AndyMacOP rebuttal to this thread in comments #47,48 & 51)

Ringo the Gringo and 1.0 attack believers

by bar ( 102 Comments › )
Filed under Evolution, LGF at March 23rd, 2009 - 1:42 am

vid courtesy of savage in case no one knows what the hell we are talking about!

The Lion, The Lamb, and The Velociraptor – Cabazon, March 2009

Ringo the Gringo takes a trip to a Creation science museum in California, cross posted at classless 1.0.

I didn’t drag my family all the way out here simply to poke fun at a goofy, creationist roadside attraction. In fact the people who were working at this place were sincerely nice folks. It was also not my intent to ridicule their religion. But still I felt compelled to photograph this place and share the pictures on my website. Why?

The reason is that there are those who would have this type of “creation science” taught in American public schools as part of the science curriculum… And most of the people pushing for this are members of the Republican Party; the party of which I am a member.

Notice the brainwashed minions all use the 1.0 guilt by association ploy.  There is no evidence that this museum advocates the teaching of creationism in public school, but someone somewhere does, so all creationist everywhere are evil, goofy stupid people and a threat to “real” Republicans. That sounds way to much like the 1.0 real “science” bombast. The irony is lost on this 1.0 mental midget, who claims he is not ridiculing Religion. then he ridicules it with catcalls about Pee-Wee Herman, the pedophile.

That is a well known trait of the illiberal militant atheist bigots on the left.

(Update: Mr Rex was in the movie Pee-wee’s Big Adventure)

I wonder if Ringo was aware that he could have saved a lot of gas by just going to a local Christian church and photograph the congregation, they more than likely are evil, vile creationist too! Maybe these 1.0 atheists types cant think that far ahead?

Some quotes from 1.0 with regard to the pictures on Ringo’s site.

12 Sharmuta  3/22/09 7:08:51 pm
Aren’t some of those creationist kids books ones you found and linked to before, Charles?

28 Charles  3/22/09 7:11:21 pm
re: #12 Sharmuta
Yes. They’re the “Answers in Genesis” textbooks, used to brainwash children.

Oh the irony of it all and from these rabid mental midgets at Little Goose-stepping Fascists, too bad they don’t even have a brain to wash.

I wonder what the 1.0 reaction would be if someone tarred all Moslems with the same terrorist brush?
It’s a rhetorical question.

The Republican party would be much better off without these classless anti-American illiberal militant atheist bigots, they only bring the Republican party down and turn it into Dhimmcrats lite if not far worse.

There is nothing to suggest any of them are even remotely conservative, from reading what they write they are extremely far left-wing moonbats. When you cant tell the difference between the writings what other conclusion could possibly be drawn?

See what Mats has to say about this.